I had the great pleasure of talking to Michael McDougal at The Public, a weekly Toronto radio program. Michael was an excellent interviewer, and I talk fast, so we covered a huge range, from my fashion work to my Long Portraits, from my work with Die Antwoord to Hysterical Literature.

Here’s the audio.

Here’s Michael’s blog post on the experience:

“And when speaking about the harmony he creates in his work by balancing radically different esthetics, he says “The source of life, for me, is the simultaneous existence of both the tragic and the sublime. I think the two can’t exist without each other, and that informs all of my work.”

So it was an occasionally uncomfortable, eye-opening experience speaking with him about his work, which documents clashing cultures and challenges common definitions of art. Most people dismiss something as ‘art’ when it’s too out-there. In Cubitt’s case, though, many dismiss his work as not-art because they do get it—or they get the surface, anyway. But hiding under the in-your-face is much measured contemplation, so our conversation did not go as I’d expected.”